I think We should make A rule about this. Other then No hunting. It gets Kinda hard when clan tags dont allways show up. Does Any7one else have some Ideas
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I think We should make A rule about this. Other then No hunting. It gets Kinda hard when clan tags dont allways show up. Does Any7one else have some Ideas
Hello HolyPrinze,
Are you talking about joining a game and finding AOD members on the other team?
If so, it's always been fair game in that situation, usually turns into a fun thing!
Now if you hear "Do you like that plane" from an AOD member on the same team... now that's a whole different kind of problem!
Keep it lite hearted, have fun!
I think it is for when we sync the squads up and are on opposing sides and some clarification is wanted;
I take the attitude of;
If your silly enough to cross my line of sight, within range and in a manner that makes you an easy target then I only read the plane name to knows it capabilities as the pilot needs to learn to be more careful. (I hope AoD members do the same to me its how we improve).
If they are in a bomber it depends on how we are playing, if they say they are grinding xp for upgrades or a particular purpose I will leave them alone, if they say nothing & are attacking the bases I tend to shoot the bombers down (dont want to lose).
If I am diving in on a furball & I see 3 targets, one or two being an AoD member I will try to engage the second or third target (respectively).
If I am just making passes & see that the person I am following is an AoD member I tend to break off - however as I found out last night the member you where shooting at might not realise & shoot you down despite you trying to leave them alone... ;)
When in doubt I just fall back on the honour principle of what is the most honourable thing to do, killing them in self defence is a necessity chsing them 4 km into the sky and 10 km away is not. Choosing them as "your target" in a furball is questionable. Revenge killing them for killing you (& focusing on them) is not, in my book if you see an AoD member who is not engaging you & has broken off you shouldn't pursue, at least I try not to.
When its just AoD members left I think its a "all rules dont apply" scenario and we all engage each other
OK let me explain one more time.
THERE IS NO OFFICIAL RULE.
When ever you sink in with another squad make sure that you all decide on what rules to follow UPFRONT.
And that all members in the squads understand the rules decided on.
What ever the rules are 'guns open , guns close' make sure you follow the COC ,
and don`t hunt AOD members just because they are AOD members.
Hunting AOD because they are AOD is exactly why we came up with the 'rule' NO SHOOTING AOD.
we had a few members who were hunting other members because they thought that was funny,
and if all players decide that is funny 'fine go ahead,
but if players wanna play a normal game and they are being hunted down because of their tag then thats not funny,
because they cant play a normal game anymore.
Now I know that in the heat of the battle sometimes you stop reading name and just kill the reds, ( I know I do, sry )
now that happens, DON`T make a fuzz about it , say sorry and move on.
Personally I wil Always try to avoid shooting AOD even if the rules agreed on is 'guns open '
The rule we decide on most of the time is :
NO HUNTING AOD because they ARE AOD.
NO shooting AOD unless they are:
1 capping the airfield
2 bombing the bases/groundtroops and thus winning the match that way.
(if you were in a bomber and was shot down by an AOD dont hunt him because he shot you down )
and if are being shot down by AOD dont get mad say thx and move on , it happens .
Like boom said, there is no official rule, and we can not set a rule about it.
Now there are ppl that can't take it, with or without rules (one of them is me) my suggestion is to just avoid syncing in.
I've seen the rule set up both ways. No shooting AOD on the other team, and weapons free. As long as you declare the rule before you launch each round for everyone to hear, you'll be fine.
DOnt think we need a rule for that imo. Just agree with eachother before the game starts what you gonna do (Killing or not killing AOD)
simple enough
1-Ranking AOD officer makes the call.They can take a voice-vote,or decide on their own accord.
2-ALL AOD will follow said call,be it democratic or otherwise
3-Problem solved
We know You have a choice in clans,and are happy You chose AOD,please enjoy Your trip and We look forward to seeing You again.Mind the step on the jetway and please proceed to Your left for immigration,sanitization,and mind-wipe..ty..buh-bye
I don't understand this. Have we now become little kids who cannot take a beating from another clan member? I personally believe that the RED guys are the enemy regardless of their clan-tag or whatnot. Hunting for AOD members is not fun, but not shooting an enemy tank who is an AOD member is kind of ridiculous. I will shoot you down, or you will shoot me down and then in the end we will laugh it off and tell each other our mistakes so we can learn.
I once shot down Aviation's panther with my IS-2 and he didn't even see me. Did I feel bad about it? No. Did he feel bad about it? Again, no.
However, I believe we should never synch in as enemies since we will be in the same TS3 channel. It will not be fun unless we move to events room's team channels to have a fair match.
That is the reason why we mostly agree to shoot upon eachother when you come across them. But as said often in this thread, hunting our dear fellow AOD members down is not O.K.. The only downside to sinking in, for me atleast, is that I can hardly get any kills when I'm flying (when we're on opposite teams xD)
My 2 cents:
I personally have been on both sides of this. Guns open & guns closed. I personally stick with guns closed. As soon as guns open happens, I end up finding myself constantly being shot down by AOD, even when I try to avoid them. Now this generally happens when two or more squads are syncing in. My personal opinion, guns closed unless capping airfield or bombing airfield.
Now if you come across a random AOD member and you have a squad, guns closed. If you're both solo, guns open.
Custom battles and our weekly events are the times when everyone gets to shoot each other. But, in random matches, being chased by 4 AOD members isn't fun.
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I think we could look to the CoC to help sort this out, particularly #'s 1, 3, 4, 8, 9 and 10 .. http://www.clanaod.net/forums/showthread.php?t=3327
If we do not shoot each other, think of the example it sets of our clan to other clans and the entire WarThunder community.. We will become known as the clan that doesn't play "fairly" , we are an honor clan and as such should play the game as it is intended to be played. Hunting of members goes against who and what we are and always have been, avoiding members also goes against our very structure. I think we should just play the game guys.
If it becomes a problem, it should be handled in the appropriate manner according to, again.. the CoC. There is a reason we have these rules, and a reason AOD has been around so long.
Trying to get a revenge award in-game is one thing, but hunting is another and should be handled as such, CoC 6 & 7.
and please remember, it is a game. We should not hunt each other, but we should not avoid each other either.. IMHO we should just play the game as it is intended to be played.
If you are grinding trying to upgrade your particular vehicle, then maybe it is not in the best interest to be in a squad that is syncing in.. you can solo, or form another squad that is not syncing with another.
Just my thoughts..
-Sworn
I agree with your statement. Playing your best even if it means killing a clanmate. I wouldn't hunt clanmates but I will bring my best to any match.Quote:
Originally Posted by AOD_Sanguinius
Lies I'm telling you... lies!!! How does that song go "your lips are moving... your lips are moving... LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by AOD_Sanguinius
Well guys, I guess us old time AOD WT guys were doing it all wrong when I use to play Arcade battles.
When we Synced-in and were on opposite teams we hunted each other down and we found it pretty dam funny... many a good laughs! Remember nimvlar?
Keep it light hearted, have fun... if as a group you want to make a gentlemen's agreement before the match which many have stated here that sounds like a good solution.
I think the "hunting" they were referring to is going after a fellow member that you know is far lower in skill than another, repeatedly.. such goes the expression, beating a dead horse.. so to speak. (such as killing an AOD member and BmZ'ing them everytime they spawn) That is to what I was referring.. lol I remember back in MOHAA we didn't have a choice but to hunt fellow AOD.. and it was quite fun.. but then again, we had dedicated servers and the option for mixed matches or AOD vs. ALL... but it was still fun, and made us all better in the end. :-D can't we just play the game guys :-DQuote:
Originally Posted by AOD_Aviation21
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Originally Posted by AOD_Aviation21
I agree with Avi that we need to keep things fun while fully adhering to the COC. As such, I personally don't believe "guns closed" is really appropriate, but that's just my opinion. When it's suggested, I just politely excuse myself and move to another room.Quote:
Originally Posted by AOD_Sworn Assassin
I've always thought the best approach is to play situationally appropriate i.e. play the game to the best of your ability for your team appropriately engaging the enemy disregarding clan tags on the other team AOD or otherwise.
If you want to specifically have a lot of fun fully guns open against AOD members (and trust me it can be a lot of fun), attend Squad night or Super Squad Saturdays or take it into a Custom battle and shoot to your hearts content.
Keep it light, keep it fun, keep it clean and fair....