Thinking of starting a new account

I have made a few mistakes on my current account(not big ones, but still) and I am thinking of starting a new account altogether(rather than starting with a new country to ensure less money spent). I am currently rank 8 and have only played UK. I have Spitfire rk6 fully upgraded and working on Beaufort rk6.
I was wondering if you could help with input on what country should I choose for the new account(and the research tech-tree I should follow). Keep in mind, I am primarily a fighter noob as I may be, and I suck even more at high-altitude bombing.

Thank you in advance for your input and help.

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Originally Posted by AOD_SnaP89

I have made a few mistakes on my current account(not big ones, but still) and I am thinking of starting a new account altogether(rather than starting with a new country to ensure less money spent). I am currently rank 8 and have only played UK. I have Spitfire rk6 fully upgraded and working on Beaufort rk6.
I was wondering if you could help with input on what country should I choose for the new account(and the research tech-tree I should follow). Keep in mind, I am primarily a fighter noob as I may be, and I suck even more at high-altitude bombing.

Thank you in advance for your input and help.

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Why would you start over, what mistakes did you make that are so bad?

And why do you only want to play one nation?

Your not locked to one nation you can play all at any time and I highly suggest you do because knowing a planes strength and weakness from flying it. Means your that much deadlier when your fighting against it, because you intimately knowing it's weaknesses.

unless your playing arcade only. Then planes strength/weaknesses don't mean dick as all planes are pretty much equalized in terms of handling.


my suggest is play all nations. start over if you want to since you have so little time in the game, but play all nations equally.

Well my most hated mistake right now is that I have bought the Tempest and 2xWellington's rk 7, and am out of money. I have also made a few crew errors, nothing big though.
I play only one nation because it is easier to grow that way in rank and get to higher tier planes, in terms of playing hours(I do not have a lot of free time). I will finish one country(or get close to ending its fighter tech-tree for instance) before moving to another tech tree or another country.
I am playing mostly arcade, some historical as well.
For instance, russians seem to have excellent armament for their fighter planes. Germans seem to have good heavy fighters, Brits are good turners, that sort of thing. Also, I am mostly a BnZ fighter, sometimes getting into turn fights due to Spitfire's turn time.
Also, the new 1.37 patch is out and that seemed to change a lot when it comes to how to research a plane and how to plan out.
My main issue is that I have about 40k money and I need some 150k right now for crew advanced training and new airplane purchase.
If I start over, I will know not to choose more than 2 tech-lines(fighter and heavy fighter i.e. Spitfire and Beaufort for UK, rather than Beaufort, Spitfire, Hurricane and Wellington).

its easiest not to start over, you can make more money at this tier, saving you precious time

I'd advise against starting over as well; if its just a lions issue its easier to make money later than at the beginning. and eventually you'll run into a lion deficit at some point anyway no matter how you pick your planes , and the only real solution is to play more. one thing you might do is take a look at all of the achievements and see if there are easy ones you can do or some harder ones you've already made progress on and work towards those.

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Originally Posted by AOD_nimvlar

I'd advise against starting over as well; if its just a lions issue its easier to make money later than at the beginning. and eventually you'll run into a lion deficit at some point anyway no matter how you pick your planes , and the only real solution is to play more. one thing you might do is take a look at all of the achievements and see if there are easy ones you can do or some harder ones you've already made progress on and work towards those.

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Yup. At some point everyone just has to sit down and earn money in the game for no other purpose. Thankfully now you can still earn money AND direct some of your XP towards a new or higher tier plane.

Well you have made me decide against starting a new account.
However, what do you think is the best country to play with for a new noobish player? Keep in mind I like fighter planes and I play arcade a lot along with some historical for now. Also keep in mind, if I start to play a new country I will play it until airplanes in former rk 10 or so, if not more.
Should I stick with UK or go for someone else?

Yeah just don't worry about crew expert/ace upgrades except on the plane you fly regularly. And as everyone said, no matter what you do. At later levels you will be spending time just grinding for money. And you don't have to fly/expert those bombers if you don't want to fly them. anymore.

I'd stick with what you have and just grind the money you need for the moment, and if your getting bored of brits (tempest is VERY good in this patch)

then I would say go USA or Germans. Both of those nations planes typically fit in to one of two types. Pure Boom and Zoom or True Energy Fighting (B&Z is only one facet of energy fighting)

both styles sound like they would fit your preferred play style. If you don't like aerobatic flying don't go japs. As while their early Ki-XX planes are energy fighters all the zeros are aerobatic fighters (most call them turners, but turning implies only horizontal turning not doing all the funky maneuvers they can do to get out of trouble let along fighting in the vertical where japs are VERY good at in like the new tier 1/2)

oh and the Russians are jack of all trades masters of none general speaking. So you might enjoy them. in arcade the russians are awesome.

in realistic (HB) you have to know your russian planes strengths and weakness as well as your all of your enemies str/wk so that you know how to fight them. Becuase they don't have any true "strengths" you have to change play style with the Russians based on what plane your fighting against. Against japs you general energy fightleaning towards pure B&Z, against Americans it depends on the plane, ect

Which lines do you suggest going for in the russian tree and the german tree?
Looks like I will keep my UK planes and maybe switch countries if I am bored.
I just took a better look at the research tree and it seems that I can still grow Spitfire and Beaufighter line before getting the Tempest.
For my style of play, what line do you suggest with the Brits?
Also, where could I find the list of planes for each country for the 1.37 patch. I'm at work, and while I can browse some websites in between meetings, actually playing the game is a bit trickier.

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Originally Posted by AOD_SnaP89

Which lines do you suggest going for in the russian tree and the german tree?
Looks like I will keep my UK planes and maybe switch countries if I am bored.
I just took a better look at the research tree and it seems that I can still grow Spitfire and Beaufighter line before getting the Tempest.
For my style of play, what line do you suggest with the Brits?
Also, where could I find the list of planes for each country for the 1.37 patch. I'm at work, and while I can browse some websites in between meetings, actually playing the game is a bit trickier.

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http://warthunder.com/en/game/releasetree

Note Yellow\Gold plane names are in game, White names are planned planes, but not in game yet.

Also note they haven't updated the trees as of 1.37. For instance the 109 F1/F2 still show as white on release tree, but they came out with 1.37

so while it is not completely current as of 1.37. that link is the closest your going to get to an active plane list.



German 109 is air superiority fighter (Style being Energy Fighter), 190 is bomber\heavy fighter hunter (Pure B&Z). That's not to say the 190s can't kill single engine fighters, but it is intended\better at going after 2+ engine aircraft. And generally speaking unless you have an energy advantage or a wingman, tangling with air superiority fighters in a 190 is a very bad idea.

Russian in Arcade the Yak 9s are beast, but in HB the other Yaks, Migs, or La-5/7 is best.
The Yak9s were in the real world a bomber\heavy fighter hunter and in HB they are excellent at that. But you are an easy meal for any air superiority fighter unless you have an extreme energy advantage or wingmen (note I said men, not man). however Yak 9s are the trolls of arcade due to their cannons (one shot kill with very high ROF) , mid air reload, and lead indicator.

British: Typhoons and Tempests are Energy fighters, Early Spitfires are aerobatic with later spitfires becoming energy fighters that lean to aerobatics. Beaufighter is decent at both.

Note about 190s, I meant in HB. in arcade everything can do everything.

And aboutYak9s in HB, when I say they are excellent at their intended role. I mean if you are in a heavy fighter or bomber and see a yak9 catching up to your tail. you are dead unless you can gunner snipe their pilot. Because they will kill you before your gunners can kill their plane. your only hope against yak 9 in twin + engine aircraft is to pilot snipe them or hit full stop and force them to ram you. If you can't outrun them.

It sounds like russians would be my best bet for Arcade, but I like Germans too much to ignore that. However, I will keep playing Brits for now. Spitfire FTW :D

It's not about what is best for the new player, but what fits your style. Like in a FPS some people naturally gravitate to the Heavy Machine Gunner, or the Medic, or the Sniper...

Britain's fighters are good turners.

German's fighters are good climbers.

Soviets have good armaments.

Japanese are good low-speed fighters (and bad high speed fighters).

Americans are good high-speed fighters (and bad low speed fighters).


And of course there are cross overs and planes that don't fit the generalization.

It's been decided. I'm moving to the russians for those arcade games. My only issue with them is the low ammo, but I assume that since they have such a huge armament it does not really matter.

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Originally Posted by AOD_SnaP89

It's been decided. I'm moving to the russians for those arcade games. My only issue with them is the low ammo, but I assume that since they have such a huge armament it does not really matter.

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on the 37/45 mm planes. just be easy on the trigger. it only takes one hit to kill but your going to fire 3-6 with every trigger tap. (note I said tap not pull)

with the other russian planes they aren't one shot kills so either get point blank and spray their ass with your whole clip (you'll get more kills but spend more time reloading) or fire in bursts aiming for crits. (get more kill assists , with more kills stolen from you. but less reloads)

Couple things IMO.

You say you would prefer one country , and BnZ fighting ..then Russian seems a no brainer.

Sounds like You will enjoy most, if not all their fighters.

As far as expert crews etc... sounds like you dont like bombing..so leave bomber crews without those extra qualifiers to save money and jsut fly them fast and low on a one way trip...bomb a few ground targets for the cash (silver lions) each match then jump in the fighter..i.e fly your first fighter..then go sucide bomb ground targets for some cash, then hop backin your fighters rest of match.


They made crew stats a little more important in 1.37 low g-force with turn your screen black in turn fights...low pilot vitality = more pilot knockouts the higher tiers you fly..low awarenss , you will detect distant enemy , your hud will detect less enemies etc...

Although you prefer fighters . "bombing for dollars" will quickly help you earn any silver lions you need.

ALWAYS EJECT FROM PLANE WHEN YOUR SURE IT IS UNFLYABLE, THIS LOWERS YOUR REPAIRS VS> FLYING IT UNTIL IT BLOWS UP OR CRASHES INTO SOMETHING.

When you cash is low or almost gone. Remember that lower tiers have lower repair bills, and killing planes and ground targets at the lower levels will be more profitable over all if your wrecking a lot of planes each match.