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    Can I have your Tots AOD Member AOD_Hans_jager's Avatar
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    Default awareness during turnfight?

    I don't often fly turnfighters, but when I get into a dog fight I often lose track of my opponent's position while we are turning and looping. Any suggestions?
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    Very funny Scotty, now beam down my clothes AOD Member AOD_DonnyMack's Avatar
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    Check the mini-map when you lose them, re-gain your bearings, then start throwing maneuvers when you've re-located them.

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    Very funny Scotty, now beam down my clothes AOD Member AOD_DonnyMack's Avatar
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    i also throw my plane around until i can pan my camera around enough to figure out who's shooting me.

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    anytime that you are attacking a target always lock on to it, my lock on target key is X .. once u have them locked on you can zoom to target .. my zoom to target key is my left Alt button, so whenever I'm turn fighting i can always hit alt and find my target, also the minimal is useful as well.. i also have my number 2 key set up to look behind me.. to be effective you want to utilize as much as u can .. lock on target, zoom to target, mini-map, etc..
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    And the Ranger's aim was deadly with the Big Iron on his hip AOD Member AOD_Spudbob's Avatar
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    Like Assassin Said, use the Zoom to target button. it works even when your pilot is blacking out! My ZTT button is clicking down on the mouse wheel, so I can always just tap it if I need to see my foe, without moving a finger.
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    Went to check my K/D ratio once , the results were negative AOD Member AOD_K_Ali's Avatar
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    ussually what im doing is using the minimap and holding the Z key [elevator] while rotating me camera once in a while to check the ennmy position
    One more important thing that ull pick up by time is predicitng the enemy position at any time of the turnfight thats how its usually done for me

    There are only two types of aircraft , spitfires and targets .

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    Oops. My brain just hit a bad sector AOD Member AOD_B.Rubble's Avatar
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    situational awareness...It's a key in dog-fighting.Much of it is preparatory in nature.

    Most of it is time in cockpit.Learning Your plane and what YOUR maneuvers make THEM do. Despite the ability of their plane,or skills,many pilots do the SAME things when presented with a dogfight.It helps to know those. Imo,I've found the following

    1-90% of human will turn right in ANY given circumstance,European,American,makes no difference. Related to % of right handed people in the world
    2-YOU set up the dog-fight.YOU Decide what they do,when they do it,how they do it,even if in the "chased' position.Set them up and force them to do thing their plane/skills can't compensate for
    3-listen. The engine noise,gun noise,all tell You where they're at,but more importantly,how they fight. If You hear some1 using their engine smartly,You know You're against a good pilot.He understand energy/retention,and basic aerodynamics.If You see multiple rounds flying by,and a constant gunnery noise,the guy sucks. He's holding onto that fire button so hard,He can't POSSIBLY react in time to say,a "TopGun' maneuver "Dump the throttle,deploy flaps,wave as they go by'.
    4-repetition. Do it enough,and it becomes second nature.

    find a plane You KNOW. You fly well,You fight well,and throw it against superior aircraft. Force Yourself into 2-3-4 v 1 and figure out how to fight,escape,fight again. You'll get it in no time. Much of the above msgs help alot. I use mini-map often, "C' to look around while in maneuver,and remember,ALTITUDE IS KEY...either get all You can,or get so low they can't follow. Good luck and FIGHTON

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    Knee High to a Worms Ass AOD Member AOD_smores1724's Avatar
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    Thank you B.Rubble for the tips!! :)

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    I have a decent bit of time in Jap planes(exceptional turn fighters) I normally in a very tedious turn fight just use WASD to fly my plane and without holding "c" to free look just move my mouse to view the enemy. When I actually get guns pointed in his general area I'll resume flying with a mix of mouse and WASD without free looking everywhere. To put it more simply, I just use WASD to override mouse aim and when that happens your mouse has no affect on flight, so you can move your mouse freely to view enemies without throwing your plane around.

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    If you can't find the enemy, they're behind you. AOD Member AOD_Silkmonger's Avatar
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    There is a gadget you can get to read the position of your head while you're playing WT. With that gadget, it is as if you have 'c' always held down, and your head's position determines where you're looking. I'm warned that it does take some adjustment, in that with your viewpoint no longer stationary you can lose track of where you are looking in relation to your plane, I've watched slack-jawed as this pilot swept others from the air with it. I did not jot down what the device was called. :-(

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    If I'm not back in 5....wait longer! AOD Member AOD_PROx's Avatar
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    Don't be afraid to combine all the great tips together! Sounds, chase cam and practice using both the keyboard control keys along with the mouse simultaneously. Also the keyboard with the free look key keeps you aware but also know and realize when you are beaten. Change up the maneuver instead of scissoring and turn fighting. Peek quickly around you or at the map as well. Lots of players get tunnel vision on one opponent, and that's when a second swoops in and usually takes you out. On a multi-monitor system you can try the browser map also.

    Good luck!


 

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