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    Default Hard drive problem

    Hello
    I have an issue with my hard drive
    i have a WD Black 64mb 7200 RMP
    noticed nowdays how when i play a game some textures not loading in fast enough or in sharp turns it just freezes for a half or a sec
    checked everything on my pc and the cpu,ram,gpu running on half load
    my hard drive is on 100% but the transfer rate is 10-20 mb/s
    how can i get it to go faster?

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    you wont be able to get it to go faster. How old is the hard drive? I recommend especially for BF4 is get an ssd drive and run the game from there you will see great improvements. What graphics mode do you run BF4 on? I have mine turned down to medium due to my hard drive and I have the same specs. It takes me about 3-5 min to load a map when i first load bf4 up then afterwards only takes 2-3 min. I know this is because of my hard drive plus I have friends who went from 7200rpm drives to ssd drives and they noticed how much better the game runs.

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    i bought my whole pc in last year may only 1 years old
    and the thing is its just not the max capacity

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    you can buy a hard drive and in one day it can go bad it doesnt matter how old it is

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    You said your HD is at 100% load, but you are only getting 10-20 MB/sec. Interesting. Further you stated that when you play games that you experience textures not showing up quick enough or when turning their is a slight pause before scene becomes drawn.

    I am not sure what game you are playing, but normal games load in as much as they can in RAM of the textures, audio, scripts, etc., before actually allowing you to enter the game to play. Yet you say your memory is only be half utilized.

    Based on your description that your HD is showing a massive load while delivering low throughput it seems to me that the HD is either doing extensive random reads/writes constantly. This should not be normal behavior with a well functioning machine.

    My guess is that your more than likely have a virus. Or you have one mighty fragmented hard drive. If I was you I would download some HD stress testing tools to verify your HD functionality (you might want to try to run these tests in safe mode as to avoid a possible virus interfering with the test results). This will tell you if your HDD really has an issue or not. I think more than likely you have a virus.

    Let me know if you have questions, and what you find out. This problem can be resolved so don't worry :)

    Best of luck,
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    What kind of stress testing tool you recommend?

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    I quick searched revealed:
    http://pcsupport.about.com/od/toolso...teseatools.htm

    That looks good. I think it works for harddrives other than seagate as well so no worries.

    Also you may want to look at what applications are doing I/O to your harddrive during the glitches you are having in game.

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    i hope this is what you need

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    Default Hard drive problem

    If you ever think you have hdd problem then do a backup on a seperate drive.

    Your problem sounds more like a low RAM problem either system or on the gpu. What are your system specifications?

    If you want to speed up a hdd drive then...
    Set the hdd to AHCI mode in the bios. Uninstall all unnecessary programs. Move all files (pictures, videos, documents) to a seperate drive. Run drive cleanup and then defrag. Then lookup how to setup shortstroking for hdd.

    Just to run some numbers an "empty" hdd will get about 150mb/s. The more it fills up, any data further in on the platters will be slower because of the reduced circumference and disc speed. What makes it worse is that the further in on the drive causes performance to degrade exponentially. So once you filled a quarter of the drive, the inner data is already half as fast 75mb/s. Then half full will bring it down to what you are experiencing 25mb/s.

    You can get a fast small usb flash drive and setup windows readyboost to help speed up the hdd cache... OR just get an SSD drive!!!

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    system specs
    CPU:AMD FX-8350
    Motherboard:Asrock killer 990FX
    RAM:8 GB Kingston 1600mhz beast
    HDD:500Gb WD black 64mb 7200rpm
    PSU:Corsair 600W

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    Quote Originally Posted by AOD_Viera View Post
    system specs
    CPU:AMD FX-8350
    Motherboard:Asrock killer 990FX
    RAM:8 GB Kingston 1600mhz beast
    HDD:500Gb WD black 64mb 7200rpm
    PSU:Corsair 600W
    If your having short freezes when turning corners and delayed/slow texture rendering/loading times thats almost certainly your Graphics card, your hard drive simply stores the game files, and affects GAME loading times(Maps,levels,ETC). I have a WD Black 500GB 7200RPM 64MB Cache(Probably the same model as yours) and used it as my primary drive for bf4 and gta5 until i got a samsung 850 evo; Map loading times where as expected, i loaded at about the same time,sometimes a little after about 60% of the other players, fast enough to get vehicles! :p

    Graphics textures, Lighting, ETC are usually processed by your GPU(Graphics card); those short little freezes and delayed rendering of textures are most likely caused by an issue with your GPU(Drivers sometimes; Make sure your using the latest AMD Catalyst drivers for ATI/AMD and Nvidia's latest 2-3 drivers are VERY buggy, so just use the 3rd from newest until it gets sorted out) or the Age/Quality of the Graphics card

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    my graphics card is on half load so i dont think thats the problem

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    Oh forgot the gpu
    AMD r9 280x 3gb 384 bit

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    Quote Originally Posted by AOD_Viera View Post
    Oh forgot the gpu
    AMD r9 280x 3gb 384 bit
    Like I said; It could STILL be your graphics card: I HIGHLYdoubt its your Hard drive- Your graphics card be at half load and CPU be just fine and still have driver-related issues + What kind of temp's do you get on your GPU? It could be throttling clock speeds due to excessive overheating; There are alot of more likely reasons that your getting that Issue than your HDD; Im just trying to help you man; Dont buy a new SSD/HDD unless you honestly think OR know thats the issue.

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    my GPU is on 50-60 C
    but i noticed when i increase the load on the hard drive it gets faster so if i increase the view distance that means more load on the hard drive and its still on 100% but now reading with 50-60 mb/s
    its seems its just lazy

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    Quote Originally Posted by AOD_Viera View Post
    my GPU is on 50-60 C
    but i noticed when i increase the load on the hard drive it gets faster so if i increase the view distance that means more load on the hard drive and its still on 100% but now reading with 50-60 mb/s
    its seems its just lazy

    Thats well within the the temperature range for AMD Cards like the 280/280x, 290/290x, ETC; I really want to stress this before I recommend you get a new HDD/SSD: View/Draw Distance, Texture Rendering, Quick Freezing when turning corners or loading sections of maps, ETC are all things that the GPU & CPU Take care of. I can make a few recommendations on a new HDD/SSD if you feel thats what you want, see below :)


    Hard Drives


    1) Seagate 1TB SSHD (HDD/SSD Hybrid w /8GB Flash Nand + 1TB Single Platter) [$80 USD]: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...e%201tb%20sshd


    - More detailed Specifications:
    110Mbps Read 512KB Random Read Speeds || 60Mbps 512KB Random Read Speeds || Find 1000MB Read/Write Speeds
    7200 RPM w/ 64MB Cache + 8GB MLC(Multi-level Cell) NAND Flash Memory
    1TB, 2TB, And 4TB Capacity's
    SATA III 6.0Gbps Interface w/ LSI Storage Controller


    * These come in 1TB, 2TB, And 4TB Capacity's


    2) Western Digital Black 1TB 7200RPM w/ 64MB Cache http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-625-_-Product

    Specifications:



    -61MBps Read [Average]
    -101MBps Write [Average]


    • SATAIII 6.0Gbps w/ 64MB Buffer/Cache


    Solid-state Drives(SSD)

    * Just some less detailed recommendations


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    i have the same WD black just 500GB

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    Quote Originally Posted by AOD_Viera View Post
    i have the same WD black just 500GB
    I know; Remember I told you that I currently own and use your exact same drive in my rig? (w/ SAMSUNG 850 EVO boot drive and OCZ Vertex4 scratch disk)-

    Look, if your looking at getting a new HDD, then its not the Manufacturer OR capacity(as long as you go with 1tb+ Single platter Hard drives; IE: 1tb WD Black is x1 1TB Platter, 2tb x2 Platters, ETC) you have to be concerned about; If you dont think you want to go with WD again I also included a Seagate SSHD, that I highly recommend, as well as 2 other SSD recommendations? Im trying to be as helpful and thorough as possible, what exactly is it that you need answering? whats the*actual* question? Im just confused; Im trying to do my best to be helpful, but despite noting that its still not highly likely a Hard-drive Issue, more likely a graphics driver/graphics card configuration setting, I provided a good list of HDD's and SSD's that I have had experience with in the past(Very good ones, by the way) to give you an idea, or options, of what to buy or look for if you do decide to buy a New HDD/SSD or both. I just dont want to see you, or anyone really, waste money on a piece of hardware and still have the issue persisting :(


 
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