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    Boycott shampoo! Demand the REAL poo! AOD Member AOD_chlorformbandit's Avatar
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    Default System cleaning program

    Hey brothers and sisters I was looking for some advice with finding a good system cleaning and optimization service/program. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated!

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    Save your breath. You'll need it to blow up your date! TacoHustler's Avatar
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    Maybe it was you that asked the other day in TS?
    Anywho, I highly recommend CCleaner and Defraggler.

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    As a reminder do not defrag a solid state hard drive.
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    Can I have your Tots Hammie's Avatar
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    +1 to not defragging an SSD. I have CCleaner, can't fault it.

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    It is bad luck to be superstitious. AOD Member AOD_Darkn3ss F4lls's Avatar
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    I use ccleaner and one I can't think of will report back

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    CCleaner & Glary Utilities 5 is the things i use, works really good..

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    Boycott shampoo! Demand the REAL poo! HUMAN1ST1C's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by AOD_warlon View Post
    As a reminder do not defrag a solid state hard drive.
    I've never heard of this - why not?

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    Can I have your Tots Hammie's Avatar
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    From what I can remember, it messes with the total number of writes. The NAND Flash within an SSD can only be used for a finite number of writes. Defragging takes and rewrites data effectively wasting it.

    Anyone else able to clarify better or maybe correct something if I'm wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AOD_Hammie View Post
    From what I can remember, it messes with the total number of writes. The NAND Flash within an SSD can only be used for a finite number of writes. Defragging takes and rewrites data effectively wasting it.

    Anyone else able to clarify better or maybe correct something if I'm wrong?
    your on spot with that from everything I can remember


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    Another CCleaner user, been my staple for a long time now. If you do a fresh install it now comes with monitoring software (what doesn't) which you might want to disable.

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    I have come to terms with the fact that I am cannon fodder. AOD Member AOD_Cyrihs's Avatar
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    I'd have to recommend Malwarebytes and Bit Defender.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AOD_Hammie View Post
    From what I can remember, it messes with the total number of writes. The NAND Flash within an SSD can only be used for a finite number of writes. Defragging takes and rewrites data effectively wasting it.

    Anyone else able to clarify better or maybe correct something if I'm wrong?
    You're pretty spot on.

    Even though SSD technology is getting more and more efficient, the old way of "defragging" no longer applies. SSDs perform an algorithm known as "garbage collection". From Windows 7 on, the built-in "defrag" application has been smart enough to recognize if a drive is an SSD or not, and will therefore perform what is called TRIM. It's now referred to in Windows as "optimize" vs. "defrag".

    ("Nerd Mode" engaged...)

    As someone who's career is centered around the storage industry, I can say that the whole "write wear" issue isn't really a problem with anything from about 2013 on, and will become even less of an association with SSDs in the coming years. The Samsung 850s introduced vNAND at the consumer level (vertical NAND / 3D NAND) where writes occur on multiple levels. Additionally, the previous expectancy of an SSD from a write perspective (when consistently written to in, say, an enterprise environment running an all-flash type of array) was 5-7 years, and there are far more writes going on there than we see on our home systems.

    Even though traditional spinning drives will still be around for a while, you're about to see larger and larger SSDs start to come out this year. By 2017, consumers won't be buying anything aside from SSDs / nvMEM since prices will continue to drop. That, and they won't be "drives" anymore, you'll see more of the things like the PCI-E cards and on-board m.2 SATA type media.

    Side note: I recently sold and configured a storage cluster for a client that consisted of two shelves of 3.84 TB SSDs. Each shelf has 24 drives. Yes...48 3.84 TB SSDs. After setup, the usable capacity was around 125 TB. Crazy. Don't ask me how much it cost to implement, however :)

    Ok..."Nerd Mode" disengaged :)

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    If you choke a smurf, what color does it turn? AOD_OddJob001's Avatar
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    I don't think you can even defrag them anymore as long as TRIM is on. And it should be detected and on in all OS's now. I use OS's as a loose term. Assume anything windows 7 and up

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