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    Geekout Is this the best I can get for $2000. Wife gave me the green light!!!!:)))))))

    So my wife gave me the green light once taxes come in since we have nothing pressing to pay off or fix on the house for once lol.

    So is this the best I can do for $2000 if not please do let me know.

    [PCPartPicker part list](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/W3FBzM) / [Price breakdown by merchant](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/W3FBzM/by_merchant/)

    Type|Item|Price
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    **CPU** | [Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gx6...bx80662i56600k) | $229.99 @ Amazon
    **CPU Cooler** | [CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/93C...-cpu-cooler-h7) | $34.88 @ OutletPC
    **Motherboard** | [MSI Z170A GAMING M5 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/F9G...-z170agamingm5) | $149.00 @ B&H
    **Memory** | [Patriot Viper 4 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vgJ...y-pv416g300c6k) | $92.98 @ Newegg
    **Storage** | [Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3kL...ve-mz75e250bam) | $94.20 @ SuperBiiz
    **Storage** | [Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MwW...drive-wd10ezex) | $49.78 @ OutletPC
    **Video Card** | [MSI GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fKp...70-gaming-x-8g) | $429.99 @ SuperBiiz
    **Case** | [NZXT S340 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tD3...ase-cas340wbr1) | $66.99 @ SuperBiiz
    **Power Supply** | [EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9q4...ly-220g20650y1) | $84.99 @ NCIX US
    **Operating System** | [Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MfH...ft-os-fqc08930) | $119.00 @ Amazon
    **Case Fan** | [Corsair Air Series SP120 High Performance Edition (2-Pack) 62.7 CFM 120mm Fans](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Jc8...an-co9050008ww) | $27.88 @ OutletPC
    **Monitor** | [Asus ROG SWIFT PG248Q 24.0" 1920x1080 180Hz Monitor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pHG...g-swift-pg248q) | $349.99 @ Best Buy
    **Keyboard** | [Corsair STRAFE Wired Gaming Keyboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dJb...rd-ch9000088na) | $79.99 @ Amazon
    **Mouse** | [Logitech G502 Wired Optical Mouse](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VfY...ouse-910004074) | $49.43 @ Amazon
    | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
    | **Total** | **$1859.09**
    | Generated by [PCPartPicker](http://pcpartpicker.com) 2016-12-23 19:37 EST-0500 |

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    First thing first. You can save hell of a lot of money if you buy JUST PRODUCT KEY for Windows 10 Pro. You can download and prepare installation always off the Microsoft website: https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/soft...load/windows10
    You can find Windows 10 Pro Product Key online for sale as low as $35.

    Second of all, don't bother with 180Hz monitors if you go with GTX 1070. Go as high as 144hz. Beyond that it's a waste of money.

    Thirdly, THIS PART IS THE MOST IMPORTANT - DO NOT BUILD PC NOW!!! FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DO NOT BUILD NOW!!! WAIT TILL KABY LAKE and AMD RYZEN IS RELEASED IN JANUARY.

    As for $2000 build, I would go with i7 then.

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    I'd personally spend another 50 bucks or so and get a 500gb ssd, hell I have a 500gb 850 evo and will probably buy the 1tb version next year.

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    Here is where you can buy Windows 10 Pro Product Key for $39.95. My friend just bought one a couple weeks ago and works perfect. Just download Windows from Microsoft website, then install and use the Product Key to activate Windows.
    https://www.gamecheap.com/products/w...gital-download

    Cheers!!

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    Nice thanks for the input. I won't be building till around the end of February or early March so I can see how the Kaby Lake processors handle gaming loads.

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    http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages...y_lake,16.html

    Seems at least this website already has tested the I5 version. It's not a huge upgrade purchasing yet over Skylake but if you are starting from scratch why not unless you can buy a 6700 k for dirt cheap. I think the next very interesting CPU will be ryzen if it delivers more than 4 cores at performance between Broadwell and Skylake at a price point lower than intel. Early test in the above linked preview show the only major gains to be due to increased frequency and not actual instructions per clock.

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    Is there any reason youre dead set on that monitor? I myself can't justify spending even half that on a 1080p monitor.
    Also, everything you've picked out is red/black so definitely choose a different CPU cooler to finish the theme.
    Find one with black fins!

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    The monitor was on sale at best buy when I chose it. The cpu cooler I originally chose had red but I changed it cuz I heard that this one had better reliability

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    Quote Originally Posted by xXxDEATHxXx View Post
    The monitor was on sale at best buy when I chose it. The cpu cooler I originally chose had red but I changed it cuz I heard that this one had better reliability
    Almost any air coolers will last indefinitely, they aren't exactly things that break. Get whichever one appeals best to you aesthetically.
    How much on sale? Because even $200 is steep for a 24" 1080p monitor. Pcpartpicker had it listed for almost $500

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    It was on sale for $225 original price was $500.

    How about liquid coolers. I'm definitely going to overclock the processor so like everyone else I don't want heat to be an issue, but I never had a straight up gaming rig and liquid cooling just seems dangerous if anything were to fail. I know tons of people have liquid cooled rigs but does it really help enough to take the chance?

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    Default Is this the best I can get for $2000. Wife gave me the green light!!!!:)))))))

    I will point you in the correct direction with this great video
    https://youtu.be/2j80dQIxkdc
    Some of my thoughts are that you should get a higher end air cooler (personally preference) because a H7 and i5 6600k overclocked to 4.5 Ghz hit a average temperature of 75 Celsius under intense loads. You could get the H7 and add an extra fan to it. The only premium I have with air coolers is really beefy ones can have issues with RAM clearance.
    be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler which be a good choice for an air cooler for $75 USD
    But all of these depends on how much you want to overclock and what type of cooler has the best aesthetics's.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AOD_ShadowCube View Post
    I will point you in the correct direction with this great video
    https://youtu.be/2j80dQIxkdc
    Some of my thoughts are that you should get a higher end air cooler (personally preference) because a H7 and i5 6600k overclocked to 4.5 Ghz hit a average temperature of 75 Celsius under intense loads. You could get the H7 and add an extra fan to it. The only premium I have with air coolers is really beefy ones can have issues with RAM clearance.
    be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler which be a good choice for an air cooler for $75 USD
    But all of these depends on how much you want to overclock and what type of cooler has the best aesthetics's.


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    Air Cooler can fail as much as AIO or Custom Liquid Cooling Loop. Therefore, there is a CPU target temperature that you can set in BIOS. Once that is reached the PC will power off automatically. So it really doesn't matter which one fails. The dangerous part can be with Custom Loop. I don't see any risks taken with AIO and they are more efficient than Air Cooler when it comes to Overclocking as they tend to keep temperature in more steady pace rather than Air Cooler that just simply blows air taken from the inside of the case... so, if inside of your case temps are high then your CPU temps will be high as well, while with AIO you set your fans to take fresh and cool air from outside and blow it through rads to keep nice and cool temps.

    I have Corsair H110i Extreme and my i5 6600k is overclocked to 4.3 Ghz and temps never ever go beyond 55C. They stay stable between 52C - 55C during winter cause I have heat on at home (wife and kid likes it warm) and 49C - 52C during summer time when AC is on.
    Btw, I tried also to push my CPU to 4.5 Ghz and temps stay around 69C just below that 70C mark. I down-clocked to 4.3 Ghz cause I like to keep all my system components nice and cool and I need to reapply thermal-compound (was too lazy to do that in the past month).

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    Quote Originally Posted by AOD_ZED View Post
    Air Cooler can fail as much as AIO or Custom Liquid Cooling Loop. Therefore, there is a CPU target temperature that you can set in BIOS. Once that is reached the PC will power off automatically. So it really doesn't matter which one fails. The dangerous part can be with Custom Loop. I don't see any risks taken with AIO and they are more efficient than Air Cooler when it comes to Overclocking as they tend to keep temperature in more steady pace rather than Air Cooler that just simply blows air taken from the inside of the case...
    The issue with AIO isn't overheating of the CPU since you already stated that you can set a CPU target in bios and also I believe CPUs are programmed to thermally throttle slightly before and shutdown once they reach TJmax. The problem is the Huge headache you have to go through when a pump fails (read LEAKS) and it corrodes the PCB of your motherboard, your video card, your power supply, ram and anything else it happens to spill over before your pc shuts down or you notice it. Even if Corsair or a similar company accepts responsibility (which I believe corsair is the only one that has any damage clause even though they are made by OEM's CoolIT and Asetek) they are going to require you to send all damaged items in to their service center for analysis and most likely IF they agree to replace they will lowball you and offer current used value (which pc components devalue like a lead balloon). So see I truly believe unless you have expendable income to rebuild your entire system or have purchased some type of secondary warranty that warrants against spills you are better off with air cooling, especially considering once you get to the ultra high end of air cooling you are only about 3-5c off from what top end AIO's can do. Sure an AIO can dissipate more heat, but at what risk. If you are cool with that one in 1000 chance or whatever it is, then by all means go for it you will get marginally better cooling especially if you replace the stock fans. The only way to go IMHO is something like this https://www.ekwb.com/shop/aio-configurator/predator it will leave both air cooling and conventional AIO's in the dust at around $50-75 dollars more since it is made from custom parts used in full water cooling systems.

    OH one huge positive of the mainstream AIO's. Although they don't necessarily leave air cooling totally behind, they do aally are way more llow for taller memory heatspreaders/better airflow around GPU's that don't have vortex type fans, and are aesthetically more appealing.
    Last edited by Velozzity; 12-31-2016 at 04:39 PM.

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    OH one huge positive of the mainstream AIO's. Although they don't necessarily leave air cooling totally behind, they do allow for taller memory heatspreaders/better airflow around GPU's that don't have vortex type fans, and are aesthetically more appealing.

    CORRECTED SINCE ABOVE HAD TYPO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AOD_Velozzity View Post
    If you are cool with that one in 1000 chance or whatever it is, then by all means go for it you will get marginally better cooling especially if you replace the stock fans.
    That's the thing. That chance that there might be a spill is like 0.01% unless you break something while installing it. I don't see any reason why from a sudden it would start to spill. People use same AIO for years and nothing happens. As a tech guy if I look at how for example H110i is built, I literally don't see any reason why it would start to spill suddenly. It's not a moving part or something. It's stationary in PC 24/7 and if it doesn't leak when you installed it then it shouldn't leak ever.

    Now, when it comes to Custom Loops, that's where you need to be cautious and think twice before you build one yourself. JayzTwoCents made a great guide video on how to build one and he mentioned that in practice it is best to see if there are no leaks before you even power on your PC... in other words, build it, then leave it for a couple days and see if there are any leaks. Once there are no leaks then you can safely power on PC and enjoy custom loop.

    As for failing pump, well I can say the same thing when a fan fails. Same headache. It needs to be replaced - same process.

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    Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive - just started using mine today and it's so blinding fast. Can't go wrong dude. :D

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    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($328.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.88 @ OutletPC)
    Motherboard: ASRock Z170 Extreme3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($104.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Memory: Mushkin Blackline 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($86.93 @ Newegg Marketplace)
    Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($164.99 @ Jet)
    Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($118.99 @ Newegg)
    Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1080 8GB AMP! Extreme Video Card ($659.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Case: NZXT S340 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G3 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ Newegg)
    Monitor: Asus VG248QE 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor ($269.99 @ B&H)
    Keyboard: Cooler Master MasterKeys Pro L Wired Standard Keyboard ($104.34 @ B&H)
    Mouse: Logitech G502 Wired Optical Mouse ($57.51 @ Jet)
    Other: Win 10 Key ($25.00)
    Total: $2150.58
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-02 11:55 EST-0500

    This is what I would buy if I was building right now. But, I wouldn't build until Ryzen and Kabylake have shown all their cards.

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    so I went by my usual websites I read tech on, and this site had a review of most of the Kaby Lake Processors...

    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...00,4870-8.html

    That page I listed above was particularly interesting. They say the sample of the 7700k they had used more voltage at 4.5ghz than the skylake equivalent. Also in a few tests temps were through the roof. Honestly the decision to build with Kaby Lake versus Skylake comes down to 2 things at the moment. Do you want to overclock or not, and can you get a steal on a 6700k. If you are fine with overclocking, and can get the 6700k at a decent price lower than the 7700k, then It might be worth it to buy the last years version considering the above review stated...

    The announcement that Intel was moving away from a tick-tock cadence prepared us for even smaller generational gains, and Kaby Lake doesn't disappoint. Intel went with the same overall architecture, so there are no extra cores, IPC throughput increases, or cache to get us excited. At stock settings, the Kaby Lake processors perform almost exactly like overclocked versions of their predecessors.
    So If you want a drop in solution without the hassle of overclocking, or the prices match up the same, by all means buy Kaby Lake. If you can get a deal on Skylake and know your way around the bios, there isn't any real IPC improvement of Kaby Lake over Skylake to warrant extra money unless for some reason you resale your gear frequently at which point the newer gear might provide more return at sale time.


 
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