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    Herding cats in Realistic Squadron Battles Argonaught_'s Avatar
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    Default Helping you understand the War Thunder Matchmaker

    Hi Guys,

    Recently, we have noticed that there seems to be a complete lack of understanding when it comes to the War Thunder matchmaking.
    So this post will "hopefully" address most of these issues.

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    1) The Match Maker.

    This is how the match maker works in each battle type :
    Aircraft
    Arcade : Matchmaking by average BR
    Realistic : Matchmaking by selected vehicle BR
    Simulator : Matchmaking by selected vehicle BR

    Tanks
    Arcade : Matchmaking by top vehicle BR
    Realistic : Matchmaking by top vehicle BR
    Simulator : Matchmaking by selected vehicle BR


    Matchmaking by average BR

    In Air Arcade mode, matchmaking works differently in comparison with any other mode – it is performed in accordance with the average Battle Rating of several aircraft with the highest BR among all the aircraft in the set. Damaged or temporarily blocked vehicles will not be factored into the calculation, as they cannot be used in battle.

    Matchmaking by average BR allows players to even make use of the capabilities of planes that are inferior to newer aircraft in the player’s set, as well as to continue to use the tried-and-tested aircraft for a long time.

    Anything else will not get you matched in a 4.3 Game.
    4.3 + 4.3 + 4.3 = 4.3
    4.7 + 4.0 + 4.0 = 4.3
    4.3 + 4.0 + 4.0 = 4.3


    Matchmaking by maximum BR

    In all other random battle modes, matchmaking uses the highest Battle Rating of the vehicles available in the player’s set.
    In Air Realistic mode, matchmaking is performed based on the aircraft selected for the battle. Since the vehicles not selected cannot be used in the battle, there is no need to include them in the calculation.
    In Ground Forces Arcade mode, matchmaking is performed based on the tank with the highest BR in the set.
    In Ground Forces Realistic mode, matchmaking is performed based on the tank or aircraft with the highest BR in the entire set (depending on which vehicle has the highest BR).

    Many players have a preference for several modes. For their convenience, there is a "vehicle preset" mechanism, which allows players to save preferred and frequently used vehicle arrangements in their hangar. This allows players to prepare for any type of battle in just a few clicks.


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    2) Your Squad Mates.

    When squading, you must be aware that their rating affects you, and yours affects them.

    So everyone in the squad must make sure that everyone is on the same page.
    It is as much your fault as theirs if there is a mistake/ accident.
    Theirs for not checking,
    and yours for not checking too.


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    So in summary :

    Always be clear about what you are doing.
    And if there is a mistake - do not get angry. Just have fun and play through it.

    Also remember you are likely to face teams that are 1.0 Battle Rating higher than you. So please do not complain about it. We have all dealt with it. There is nothing worse than being in a squad with someone who is constantly complaining about something. There is nothing more satisfying than a squad that has been uptiered going in and carrying a team.

    https://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php?title=Matchmaker


    Complaining and blaming people for a mistake is not on.

    If you have any issues with members about this issue, Please direct them to this thread and if it becomes a constant issue with a certain person, please pm the sergeants and we will talk to the person.

    Minor issues that are not dealt with will stay minor issues. We can and will fix them =)


    Regards,
    _Argonaught_
    Last edited by Argonaught_; 05-04-2017 at 08:59 AM.

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    No man, no problem UAREBBQ's Avatar
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    Getting uptiered is the most satisfying thing in the world. I have no idea why people hate getting uptiered. :D

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    Definition of uptiered-3.7 in a 6.7 match....

    Definition of 0 phuqs' given-going 1-4 and carrying the match


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    Keep honking. I'm reloading DeKrieg's Avatar
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    Also breakdown on how spawn points work in realistic so you can get a more sensible line up:

    https://warthunder.clanaod.net/forum...d.php?t=159398

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    Went to check my K/D ratio once , the results were negative K_Ali's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by AOD_UAREBBQ View Post
    Getting uptiered is the most satisfying thing in the world. I have no idea why people hate getting uptiered. :D
    in planes it's fine most let's say 4.0 planes can get you a decent match at the hands of a good pilot in 5.0 or a bit higher but in tanks you just can't do that cause they will probably one shot you but you prob cant as example a T34 85 in a 6.7 match or a sherman facing tigers

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    Quote Originally Posted by AOD_K_Ali View Post
    in planes it's fine most let's say 4.0 planes can get you a decent match at the hands of a good pilot in 5.0 or a bit higher but in tanks you just can't do that cause they will probably one shot you but you prob cant as example a T34 85 in a 6.7 match or a sherman facing tigers

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    If I'm not back in 5....wait longer! Luis_Zulu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by AOD_Argonaught_ View Post
    Anything else will not get you matched in a 4.3 Game.
    4.3 + 4.3 + 4.3 = 4.3
    4.7 + 4.0 + 4.0 = 4.3
    4.3 + 4.0 + 4.0 = 4.3

    Correct me if I am wrong but a 4.7 + 4.3 + rest of vehicles in line up 4.0= 4.3

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    If I'm not back in 5....wait longer! Luis_Zulu's Avatar
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    Also, if you could add a note if vehicle rank affects MM would be awesome for those that dont have that very clear(like me)

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    Quote Originally Posted by AOD_Luis_Zulu View Post
    Correct me if I am wrong but a 4.7 + 4.3 + rest of vehicles in line up 4.0= 4.3
    4.7+ 4.3+ 4.0 will end up on an everage of somewhere around 4.4/4.5 according to gaijin and will more likely put you in a 4.7 match then a 4.3 ....I know I know Russian wodka logic don't blame the messenger..(me).

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    For ground forces, being uptiered makes you really need to know the weak spots on an enemy tanks. As a masochist that likes American tanks, I can attest that most Tiger commanders are idiots just asking to get their driver port shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AOD_Kharior View Post
    For ground forces, being uptiered makes you really need to know the weak spots on an enemy tanks. As a masochist that likes American tanks, I can attest that most Tiger commanders are idiots just asking to get their driver port shot.
    or even better, turning their sides while being engaged by an M19.

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    Very helpful ty

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    Good Post!

    Through I keep on getting into 6.0 matches when I'm only 5.3. :(

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    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue Anglerfish Miho's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by AOD_BoomBoomStick View Post
    4.7+ 4.3+ 4.0 will end up on an everage of somewhere around 4.4/4.5 according to gaijin and will more likely put you in a 4.7 match then a 4.3 ....I know I know Russian wodka logic don't blame the messenger..(me).
    I used to use that format all of the time and it worked but after the most recent patch (or maybe a few, I haven't played in awhile) you cannot do 4.7-4.3-4.0 to get a 4.3 game anymore.

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    It does SEEM to be based solely on highest BR now, instead of an average anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AOD_Virtualnsaniity View Post
    It does SEEM to be based solely on highest BR now, instead of an average anymore.
    In RB and Sim yes in arcade it's still the highest 3 allthough it's doesn't seem to be like that a lot of times ..

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    If you can't find the enemy, they're behind you. Silkmonger's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by AOD_UAREBBQ View Post
    Getting uptiered is the most satisfying thing in the world. I have no idea why people hate getting uptiered. :D
    I mostly prefer tanking, but I don't care to be uptiered because when that happens, I find I'm usually bouncing shells off of the enemy, but have to respawn anyway because just getting the hits is enough to cause that when you're uptiered. The whole experience feels a bit like I've volunteered to be put into stocks so that people can throw rocks and garbage at my face while other people are kicking me in the butt.

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    Youtuber MikeGoesBoom has a great video where he explains matchmaking
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lgfG3z56GU

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    yeap

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    Quote Originally Posted by AOD_Anglerfish Miho View Post
    I used to use that format all of the time and it worked but after the most recent patch (or maybe a few, I haven't played in awhile) you cannot do 4.7-4.3-4.0 to get a 4.3 game anymore.
    In order to get the average of your 3 highest planes they have to be within .3 of each other.

    2.7 3.0 3.3 = 3.0


 
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