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    Default Hard Drive(s) Problems? Help?

    So I recently had trouble with my computer. I thought the whole thing was dying. It was originally built in ~2008, but I've replaced bits and pieces over the years including the HD's, the MB, the processor, RAM, Video Card... Newest thing is a 1660 video card from 3 or 4 years ago.


    Anyway, I started having major problems downloading things to the 2 physical HD's, and transferring between my HD's and my SSD's. I thought the whole thing was crashing down, so I reinstalled Windows 10.

    The problem persisted. But then I discovered that the problem ONLY occurred between my disc Hard Drives. Sending files between and operating solely on my SSD's works fine.


    I know that HD's can go bad. But to have 2 go bad at the same time? Is it possible that it's a problem with my MB and the HD's only? And that my HD's aren't bad, but my MB is?


    Thanks for any help!


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    I assume that your HD's are plugged into the SATA header. Is your SSD plugged into a M.2 slot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AOD_Blackb4ss View Post
    I assume that your HD's are plugged into the SATA header. Is your SSD plugged into a M.2 slot?
    No M.2's. Everything plugged in to the SATA cables.


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    Can you read from them? Just can't write from one to another?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AOD_Blackb4ss View Post
    Can you read from them? Just can't write from one to another?
    I can read from them. It's just that sending any files to or from them, including downloading, times out and crashes windows entirely. Even after I reinstalled Windows.

    My Sata SSD's seem fine.


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    It might be happening to my other drives now, too. A steam update to an SSD timed out and crashed Windows Explorer.


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    In all my years I have never came across this problem. I would have to start searching google for possible solutions. If you have a spare HDD I would try using that to see if you get the same problems,

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    Heya Dannes, you old timer!
    Hmm, make sure your chipset drivers are updated. You could have a driver that's not working properly. I had weird issues a while back after a good old Windows update broke a driver. After that, you can try using Crystal Disk Info. It's free and can tell you if 1 or more of your drives are having issues, or going to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AOD_B1ackBishop View Post
    Heya Dannes, you old timer!
    Hmm, make sure your chipset drivers are updated. You could have a driver that's not working properly. I had weird issues a while back after a good old Windows update broke a driver. After that, you can try using Crystal Disk Info. It's free and can tell you if 1 or more of your drives are having issues, or going to.

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    Interesting! Thanks Bishop.

    I've already completely unplugged my second, older HDD.



    But this showed up immediately.

    Does this program fix anything, or just diagnose a problem?
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    You can try running scandisk on your HDD's. Its supposed to correct errors and mark bad sectors as bad so they don't get written too. When is the last time you ran disk defrag on those?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AOD_Blackb4ss View Post
    You can try running scandisk on your HDD's. Its supposed to correct errors and mark bad sectors as bad so they don't get written too. When is the last time you ran disk defrag on those?
    The defrag seems to die at 2% for the bad drive.


    My biggest concern is if it's just a HDD going, or it's something more major. I can replace HD's easy enough. But I'm wondering if I'm chasing my tail or if I should just be aiming at building a new computer.


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    That defiantly looks like a bunch of bad sectors on the drive. It's not dead yet, but the tendency is, at best, gaining more bad sectors with time. And that sucks because whatever data is on those bad sectors is almost certainly lost. So, for temporary use, I would echo Blackb4ss's suggestion. Crystal Disk Info is just a diagnostic tool, so try using the Windows check disk tool. Don't use defrag until you do the check disk because if the defrag gets to a bad sector that hasn't been flagged as bad, it'll try to read the contents repeatedly until you get a cycle redundancy check error or something similar. In fact, I wouldn't run the defrag at all on that drive because the last thing it needs is a heavy workload, which is what the defrag will do to try and organize all the data on it.
    When using the check disk tool, be sure to select /r to instruct the chkdsk to "locate and fix bad sectors on the drive". It won't actually "fix" the bad sectors, but will flag then as bad so they aren't used anymore. Again, this is temporary because there's a high chance you will gain more bad sectors on that drive in future, and you back to square 1. Here's what you do for the check disk:

    Step 1. Press Windows + X keys to open the task menu > select Command Prompt (Admin). Click Yes if the User Account Control prompt appears.

    Step 2. In the command window, type the command line chkdsk g: /f /r /x and press Enter.
    • g: is the drive letter you selected to scan
    • /f instructs CHKDSK to fix any errors that were discovered during the scan
    • /r tells CHKDSK to locate and fix bad sectors on the drive
    • /x asks CHKDSK to dismount the drive before the process begins


    End of the day though, I would defiantly consider consider backing up all the data and replacing drives that Crystal Disk Info tells you is not good, asap. As to your concern on something more major going on with your machine, from what you've stated and what we've seen, I (says the dude that's far from an expert, mind you) would bet is probably just HDD issues.
    Last edited by AOD_B1ackBishop; 12-24-2022 at 09:48 AM.
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